Eagles Basketball

[Mr. C]

Have any of you watched the basketball team practice yet? If so, how do they look this year without Jeremy? Someone told me the other day that they thought we'd be better this year than last, because despite losing Jeremy, we have a larger number of talented players. Anyone who has seen the team practice, let us know what you think.

I'm not looking past football season in any way, because football is my favorite sport...I'm just curious because I plan to go to more basketball games this year than I have in the past.

[theathlete]

The Basketball Team should be good this year..... Don't know how good but thats what I've heard

[ctownvillian]

didnt we lose a player to two

[heathwaldrop]

ctownvillian said:

didnt we lose a player to two

Other than Jeremy Evans? Tony Edwards moved and he probably would have been a starter. I figure Dominic Lincoln will start at the point and Rod Brown will start at the five, but other than that I'm not really sure.

[Mr. C]

Tony Edwards moved? I had no idea about that, because I saw him in his Eagles jacket at the Hamburg football game Friday night. I think that was him, anyway.

[heathwaldrop]

thatoneguy said:

Tony Edwards moved? I had no idea about that, because I saw him in his Eagles jacket at the Hamburg football game Friday night. I think that was him, anyway.

It was him, but he was there to watch Dollarway.

[ctownvillian]

have the eagles ever won a championship in basketball

[Mr. C]

Is that were he goes to school now, Dollarway?

[heathwaldrop]

ctownvillian said:

have the eagles ever won a championship in basketball

No. Some people say yes, but in reality no. Nothing before the modern era (post-1970) really counts.

And yes, Tony goes to Dollarway now and is playing for last year's state champs.

[Mr. C]

So you think we may still be a pretty good team, even without Edwards? Who was the best player last year in your minds, other than Jeremy Evans, of course?

[heathwaldrop]

After Edwards, everything was by committee. Some nights Brown would score in double-digits, some nights Edwards would, some nights Andre Davis would. Inconsistent play among Evans' counterparts was probably the No. 1 problem that the team had last year.

The addition of Lincoln at point guard is going to make a monumental difference in the back court, so this team probably won't drop off as much this year as some might think. The only thing is, the conference is going to be considerably better with the addition of the new teams, so it might seem so.

[Eddie Goodson]

What I want to know is how does he get around having to sit out a year? Heath, what are the steps to get around it. I know it applies when going from public to private schools and I was under the impression it applied to public to public transfers as well after the ninth grade.

[Eddie Goodson]

This is from the AAA. I'm beginning to like school choice les and less in regards to athletics. That CSAP letter isn't worth the paper it is printed on. No one will convince me what is going on in the Pine Bluff area is on the up and up.

Rule 1. RESIDENCE
A. Public Schools.
1. A student's eligibility for interscholastic athletics shall be
in the public school district of the parent's residence.
Refer to other residence and transfer rules for limitations
and situations. The AAA recognizes only one residence
for eligibility. A change in residence consists of a
complete and bona fide move from one domicile to
another.
2. A student may meet the residence requirement at
another AAA member school after attending said
member school for one calendar year (365 days from
initial enrollment).
3. A student shall also meet the residence requirement if
the student receives a legal transfer (school board to
school board) from one public school to another. Board
to board transfers must take place prior to Labor Day.
4. Any student who attended a public school district that
has been consolidated or annexed by Act 60 of the 2003
Extraordinary Session and is approved for attendance
under school choice in another school district shall be
eligible to participate in extracurricular activities under
the transfer rule providing they apply for school choice
by July 1 of the calendar year in which their resident
district files notice of annexation or consolidation.
B. Nonpublic Schools.
1. Member schools accredited by the Arkansas Nonpublic
School Accrediting Association shall be required to
supply a Changing Schools / Athletic Participation form
to meet the residence requirement for eligibility when a
change in schools is made or the student may meet the
residence requirement if the parents make a bona fide
and complete residence change.
2. Those enrolling after Labor Day may not participate in
interscholastic athletics for 365 days from the first day of their enrollment.
C. Legal Attendance.
1. A student's eligibility for interscholastic athletics with
respect to the residence rule may be in the public school
that the student is legally attending at the beginning of
the fall semester, provided attendance is not for athletic
purposes.
2. Residence, transfer and legal attendance rules apply
only to students whose parents reside in the state of
Arkansas, transfer within the state of Arkansas or meet
the Changing Schools / Athletic Participation (CSAP)
guidelines. CSAP forms may only be used by schools
within the state of Arkansas.
3. Students residing outside the State of Arkansas must
meet one of the above guidelines in section B and C.
This includes any students from foreign countries except
those in an approved Foreign Exchange Program.
4. Refer to other residence and transfer rules for additional
limitations and situations.
D. Non-school Coach. A student transferring, moving or, for
any reason, attending a new school where the student's
non-school coach is a school coach, or is anyone assisting
in any capacity with the coaching or training of the school
team, is presumed to be attending for athletic purposes if
the student participated in athletics the previous year.
E. Transfers.
1. A student changing schools under the Freedom of
Choice law, transferring other than a legal transfer (both
boards agreeing, also known as “release and
acceptance”) or any circumstance other than public
school residence rules 1 through 3 above, is assumed to
have changed schools for athletic purposes if the
student participated in athletics the previous year.
2. Same Sport Season. A student changing schools for
any reason who has been a member of an athletic team
may not participate in the same sport at the receiving
school during the same defined sport season.
3. To gain eligibility through the legal attendance rule, the
non-school coach rule or the transfer rule, the following
criteria must be met by using the CSAP (Changing
Schools/Athletic Participation) form:
F. CSAP Forms.
1. A Changing Schools/Athletic Participation (CSAP)
document stating that the student was not recruited and
did not change schools for athletic purposes must be
signed prior to participation by:
a. The superintendent or designated administrator of
the previous school.
b. The superintendent or designated administrator of
the new school.
c. The parent(s) or legal guardian(s), witnessed by the
new (receiving) school's administrator or a notary
public.
2. CSAP forms may only be used for eligibility of students
who are enrolled in the receiving school prior to Labor
Day.
G. Return to Resident District. A student who transfers back
to the public school district of his parent's residence within
the first eleven days of the fall or the spring semester of that
district shall become eligible after attending one day of
classes.

[heathwaldrop]

admin said:

What I want to know is how does he get around having to sit out a year? Heath, what are the steps to get around it. I know it applies when going from public to private schools and I was under the impression it applied to public to public transfers as well after the ninth grade.

Same rules don't apply to public schools. Plus he moved, and if you move, all bets are off.

Tony has a non-traditional family situation. I'm not sure who he's living with right now. I talked to him for a minute on Friday but I expect to get to talk to him at length sometime this week.

By the way, those bylaws are as clear as mud.

[Eddie Goodson]

heathwaldrop said:

admin said:

What I want to know is how does he get around having to sit out a year? Heath, what are the steps to get around it. I know it applies when going from public to private schools and I was under the impression it applied to public to public transfers as well after the ninth grade.

Same rules don't apply to public schools. Plus he moved, and if you move, all bets are off.

Tony has a non-traditional family situation. I'm not sure who he's living with right now. I talked to him for a minute on Friday but I expect to get to talk to him at length sometime this week.

By the way, those bylaws are as clear as mud.

I guarantee you that Holt's lawsuit is going to win. Private schools are getting a raw deal all the way around. School choice is ruining athletics in this state and will produce a small number of powerhouse athletic programs.

[heathwaldrop]

admin said:

School choice is ruining athletics in this state and will produce a small number of powerhouse athletic programs.

There were holes all through the transfer rules long before School Choice and even before all of the hullaballoo about the private schools. I had an ADG sportswriter tell me that there is a "recruiting war" every summer in Pulaski County for basketball players. You've got all of those designated "magnet" schools (that describes darn near every high school in the LR area, including Mills) which is how a kid like Steven Moore can transfer from NP to Mills.

[ctownvillian]

i am not going to say transfering school are right but if some kids and their parenst know that scouts dont recuit from 0-10 teams they watch they teams in theplayoffs.

[Mr. C]

Well, that's a sad truth in today's world. In order to keep people from working their way around the rules, you have to restrict the rights of the innocent. For example, say one guy switches from X school to Y school JUST to play football for them. Now, say another football player switches from X school to Y school because he has no choice. Do you take away a year of eligibility to play ball from both of them, or do you let them both play? Either way, you gotta be consistent with it.

[ctownvillian]

nothing anyoen can do if a lids moves districts that totaly legal

[Mr. C]

Yeah, there may be a solution to the problem...but it obviously hasn't been found yet. The best idea I've heard is to make kids sit out a season (not necessarily "off" the team, but not play). But the downside is if a football player HAS to move, he misses a season. It's definitely complicated, lol.