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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 17, 2006 19:56:36 GMT -6
I thought the letter written to the editor of the Ledger, by Jim Murphy, was eloquently written and made a powerful point. If you haven't read it, check it out at www.asheycountyledger.com under the "Opinions" link. There is a petition circulating to reinstate the BOARDS uniform policy until the end of the school year. A group of parents are planning on addressing the issue at the next meeting. There seems to be a whole bunch of angry parents and only a few happy board members. |
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Post by ctownvillian on Oct 17, 2006 20:44:05 GMT -6
just let it be. board made a decsion to put them in effect and now they voted to take it out. only thing that sucks is the fact there may be a lot of angry parent but the board has teh say so.
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Post by hogdog on Oct 17, 2006 21:55:26 GMT -6
I thought the letter written to the editor of the Ledger, by Jim Murphy, was eloquently written and made a powerful point. If you haven't read it, check it out at www.asheycountyledger.com under the "Opinions" link. There is a petition circulating to reinstate the BOARDS uniform policy until the end of the school year. A group of parents are planning on addressing the issue at the next meeting. There seems to be a whole bunch of angry parents and only a few happy board members.[/quote I happen to think it was the best thing they have decided in a while. The uniforms had NO business in the Crossett School System................. If they were going to have school uniforms they should have in-forced them for the WHOLE system and NOT a select few schools. I also thought the teachers should have been made to wear them also |
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Post by ctownvillian on Oct 17, 2006 22:22:26 GMT -6
its just like the senors being able to leave school early to go to work they took that program out and then turned around and put it back in effect. If they are going to put the uniforms in they just need to do it in every school in crossett and be down.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 17, 2006 22:43:55 GMT -6
There's not a single thing stopping those kids from wearing thier uniforms to school, this year, next year, forever if they want to. It's not against the new policy for them to continue to comply with the old rule.
It sounds as though these parents just want to keep other kids from dressing they way that their parents want them to dress.
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Post by ctownvillian on Oct 17, 2006 22:58:58 GMT -6
well this is going to be one less discipline issue that the school have to deal with and maybe now instead of worrying about what a kid we can put more on LEARNING. and i have a question since when has it mattered what a kid wore to learn in ? is there certain types of clothes that kinder their learning ability?
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 17, 2006 23:27:55 GMT -6
The argument actually is that because some kids don't have stylish clothes that THEY are being hindered, because people make fun of them and they're too stressed out about it to learn.
It sounds stupid, but that's really the reason.
So really it's not as much a uniform rule as it is an anti-fashion rule.
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 18, 2006 5:23:52 GMT -6
It is not a matter of wearing the uniforms or not, it is a matter of taking the uniforms out midyear, without reason. I could care less if the kids wear uniforms or not, but now parents are buying two sets of school clothes. I have not purchased "winter" uniforms yet, so now I will go spend another hundred dollars on pants and long sleeves, just so they will be worn another few weeks. I know that there is no reason they can't go on wearing them after Christmas, but there is no way that my kids will "willingly" wear them once they see everyone else is not. So far, no valid explanation has been given for this mid-year policy change, except the commonly used CSD saying "because I said so."
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 18, 2006 10:46:37 GMT -6
Well, by my earlier posts on the topic before the policy was changed, it surprised me that it was changed mid-year. But it does make some sense because
1) How well would a "lame-duck" policy be enforced? My guess is not very well.
2) Again, there's no reason why parents "have to" by a second set of clothes for their students. It's not against the rule for them to continue wearing the same standard-issue uniform clothes. I don't think that parents who loved them so much in the first place really have an excuse not to continue having their kids wear them.
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Post by ctownvillian on Oct 18, 2006 11:16:04 GMT -6
i dont know about yal but wheni tell my lil girl to do somthing she better do it or she will pay the consicences. Okay somoene has to spend money on clothes that they would have to buyany way if there wasnt any uniforms
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 18, 2006 11:25:44 GMT -6
i dont know about yal but wheni tell my lil girl to do somthing she better do it or she will pay the consicences. Okay somoene has to spend money on clothes that they would have to buyany way if there wasnt any uniforms I have well-behaved children that mind, but it is not fair to make them wear something the other kids don't. When you do have kids one day, you will understand. On the issue of buying clothes, how do you figure that they aren't spending more when they had to purchase uniforms in the fall and regular clothes for the spring? When I bought school clothes, all I bought was uniforms. I buy a few street clothes for them here and there, but very few. So, yes I am spending double. |
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 18, 2006 11:40:02 GMT -6
When you do have kids one day, you will understand. Heh he. C-town already has kids. Again, though, I don't think that it's the school district's responsibility to cater to the whims of kids who don't want to look "different." That's a parental responsibility, not a district responsibility. I guarantee you that my parents wouldn't have had a problem with it. |
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 18, 2006 12:30:21 GMT -6
Agreed, but there are alot of things that are parental responsibility that the school district takes care of. Ultimately, this all could have been avoided by a little common sense on the part of the school board.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 18, 2006 12:35:00 GMT -6
Agreed, but there are alot of things that are parental responsibility that the school district takes care of. No argument there. And I even understand the mentality behind it... "Since parents aren't being parents, we've got to fulfill the role of parents--without that starting point we can't begin to educate." I understand why, I just don't agree with it. |
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 18, 2006 12:38:26 GMT -6
Agreed, but there are alot of things that are parental responsibility that the school district takes care of. No argument there. And I even understand the mentality behind it... "Since parents aren't being parents, we've got to fulfill the role of parents--without that starting point we can't begin to educate." I understand why, I just don't agree with it. That is the smartest thing you've said all day! LOL Just kiddin' |
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Post by emily on Oct 18, 2006 12:43:23 GMT -6
My whole thing is... the school board asked the parents for their opinions before putting the uniforms in the schools, but did not ask a single person before taking them out.
I don't care if they wear them or not, it does not affect me either way, however, I understand where the parents are coming from with there frustrations about having to buy a whole new wardrobe for the Spring semester when they have already spent so much on the uniforms. I feel that the school board should have waited until the end of the year to get rid of the uniforms.
Also, I personally do not see the problem with having the students wear uniforms. I do however feel that the policy should have been placed in every school, not just the lower grades. The High school and Jr High are the schools that had the dress code problems, not NCP and Anderson.
Okay, that is my little two cents on the matter.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 18, 2006 12:51:18 GMT -6
The board didn't survey anyone. The administration did, and at least as far as I know it was not at the board's request.
Even at that, it was at only one school (North Crossett Primary) and it was far from being scientific. Surveys were sent home with kindergartners. We never received a copy of the survey to see how it was presented. When we asked for the survey results we were given only a percentage of parents that replied "yes" on the returned surveys. We weren't told how many surveys actually were returned.
The uniforms were put into place at NCP that year but then moved up through sixth grade the next, and the parents of those children were not given a say-so whatsoever. In fact that was one of the reasons why the district was sued over the matter.
This was at best a very half-hearted effort to discover the genuine feelings of parents concerning uniforms. Six or seven years ago the district did a much more-comprehensive study and decided that the majority of parents did not approve of the idea. That's why the people who supported the issue in the beginning tried to be sneaky about getting uniforms in this manner...they knew that there was no way that they'd be approved by a majority of parents.
BTW, uniforms CREATE dress-code enforcement problems. They don't solve them.
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Post by Ford on Oct 18, 2006 12:53:33 GMT -6
The school district already planned to instate the uniforms before they ever sent home the survey. The survey was only sent home to make people feel as if their opinions would make a difference
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 18, 2006 13:26:47 GMT -6
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Post by heathwaldrop on Oct 18, 2006 13:30:15 GMT -6
I wish that we we would add a belt requirement at least. ;D Half our boys are sent home because of sagging britches. So just keep on sending them home, and after they get X number of referrals, suspend them. Eventually the message will get across or they'll be kicked out. |
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