OFFICIAL ASHLEY BOWL 2006 THREAD

[heathwaldrop]

Another thing...coach Ingram often talks about leaving everything on the field, and I don't think that anyone could deny that his players did this last night. Some of those guys were about ready to drop and several of them did, after the game ended, from the physical and emotional exhaustion.

This one obviously meant a lot to Crossett's team, and to the coaches. And I think one reason why the coaches showed the emotion that they did at the loss was because they knew how much effort that the players put forth in the game. I cant' think of a time other than maybe a game or two in 2003 that I saw a Crossett team lay everything out there the way that I saw it on Friday night. I think that Ingram would have to be pleased with the effort after being very unhappy with it last week.

That's not to say that Hamburg didn't deserve to win because Hamburg worked hard and showcased its abilities, too, but knowing how much was expended this was a really tough loss for the Crossett sidelines.

To the players who do read this board, and to the coaches who do, this Crossett team has absolutely nothing to be ashamed about after that game. A fine effort that should be respected and applauded.

[old lion]

I asked the question on the FF board on the call that we had a TD called back. The ref made the wrong call, he let Coach intimidate him. Right or wrong, the refs need to know the rules. I am getting some feed back that the rule has changed putting Coach T in the right. Maybe somebody knows for sure to not let this happen in the future for anybody.

[Mr. C]

As far as I know (and I was told this by a Lions fan during the third quarter), the rule is that if a player (Nick Kelley I think) leaves the field because of an injury, he has to sit out at least one play. Nick was in there on the very next play, and that's against the rules apparently. Tough kid, unfortunately it ended up hurting them.

[emily]

jgriever said:

I asked the question on the FF board on the call that we had a TD called back. The ref made the wrong call, he let Coach intimidate him. Right or wrong, the refs need to know the rules. I am getting some feed back that the rule has changed putting Coach T in the right. Maybe somebody knows for sure to not let this happen in the future for anybody.

The ref made the right call in calling the touchdown back. Yes he should have thrown a flag, but the touchdown should not have been able to stand. Anytime a player is taken off the field by the coaching staff due to injury, that player has to sit out for at least one play. The player that was injured for Hamburg did not sit out a play. Hamburg let the play clock count down then called time. After the timeout, the player was right back in there to play. He can't do that. He has to actually sit out for a play. Coach T had every right to call that to the attention of the refs, and the refs had to do the right thing by calling back the play.

[ctownvillian]

I dont know about the call i just know i havent ever been proud of them boys like i was last night. They never quit just kelpt taking it to them over and over.

[heathwaldrop]

Here's the situation on that, and this is coming from the AOA office through an administrator. The referees blew the call twice. Yes, the initial call should have been made and Kelley should not have been allowed to come back onto the field without sitting out a play. I think that the Hamburg bench was under the impression that he could come back immediately if a timeout had been expended, but that was not the case.

However, once the next play has been run, as it was in this case (scoring the TD...Hamburg was lining up for the extra point), all bets are off and the rulebook does not allow for the officials to alter the previous call or no-call. Under the circumstances the touchdown should have stood.

The call should have been made intially, but the touchdown also should have stood. A boneheaded mistake for a veteran crew that very seldom makes that kind of an error. Everybody is due a mistake though...including officials.

And coaches.

And players.





And sportswriters.

(Especially sportswriters.)

[heathwaldrop]

One other thing, an astute fan told me this morning that he believes that the exact same thing happened on the Crossett side and the officials also missed the call, but nobody really noticed it because it didn't turn out to be a "critical" situation...there was no score or anything.

[old lion]

heathwaldrop said:

Here's the situation on that, and this is coming from the AOA office through an administrator. The referees blew the call twice. Yes, the initial call should have been made and Kelley should not have been allowed to come back onto the field without sitting out a play. I think that the Hamburg bench was under the impression that he could come back immediately if a timeout had been expended, but that was not the case.

However, once the next play has been run, as it was in this case (scoring the TD...Hamburg was lining up for the extra point), all bets are off and the rulebook does not allow for the officials to alter the previous call or no-call. Under the circumstances the touchdown should have stood.

The call should have been made intially, but the touchdown also should have stood. A boneheaded mistake for a veteran crew that very seldom makes that kind of an error. Everybody is due a mistake though...including officials.

And coaches.

And players.





And sportswriters.

(Especially sportswriters.)

That was just one of them things,it just added to the excitement to the game. I feel and hope that both teams can continue to play as hard as they did last night and represent Ashley County with pride as the season continues. I wish the best for both.

[emily]

heathwaldrop said:

One other thing, an astute fan told me this morning that he believes that the exact same thing happened on the Crossett side and the officials also missed the call, but nobody really noticed it because it didn't turn out to be a "critical" situation...there was no score or anything.

when did it happen?

[heathwaldrop]

emily said:

when did it happen?

I'm not sure that it happened at all; I didn't notice it. But this guy said that he remembered seeing it. He wasn't sure when it had happened but it was prior to when the TD was called back.

[emily]

I was there watching every minute of the game before the half. Those coaches never did go out there and get a player, just to turn around and put them back in on the very next play. I promise you that the Crossett kids that came out for an "injury" sat out at least one play.

[Outlaw85]

I tried to find the official rules of high school football and read up on it.But apparently they are top secret and the average joe doesn't have access to them.I found a link to them on the AAA site but you have to be a member of NFHS to view them.

[Mr. C]

I was also told it happened to Crossett, and I watched the whole game without seeing it. The game seemed to have a lot of penalties too though, so that may have 'masked' it from the fans as just another penalty.

[heathwaldrop]

I'm glad that it didn't end up being the difference-maker. That would have been highly controversial.

[Ma & Pa of Milo]

Well, I've searched the Ashley County Ledger in Hamburg and alsoThe Crossett News Observer neither of the papers mentioned Kyle Cockerham was the MVP (Most Valuable Player) of the Hamburg/Crossett game. I consider that to be an Honor.

Also in the Hamburg paper they have pictures of the Offensive Players of the Week, Denfensive Players of the Week.Special Teams Player of the Week. I personally think our boys deserve to be recognized in the paper.

What do we need to do to get this going

One Eagle GrandMother speaking for all the TEAM.

[heathwaldrop]

The Players of the Game that you're talking about is something that KHMB does and gives out. Has nothing to do with anyone other than KHMB, that's why it wasn't mentioned in either newspaper.

Steve Sanders will have to tell you this for certain, but the Players of the Week in the Ledger are selected by the HHS coaching staff and are supported through advertising sponsorship. If somebody wanted to pay to sponsor something like that for the Crossett team, I'm sure that our advertsing department would sell it gladly!

Incidentally, if I had been asked to pick a Player of the Game for Crossett, I also would have picked Cockerham...although LaCario Paskel also had a fantastic night.

[stevesanders]

Right on radio station player of the week. Has nothing to do with us.
Also right on Hamburg players of week. Selected by coaches, paid for by advertisers.

[Mr. C]

Hey, what ever happened to the Tribal Stick of the Week they used to do? Where they gave out the t-shirt to the winning player and I think a free meal at Western Sizzlin or somethin.

[heathwaldrop]

If they're not giving it out anymore I'm guessing that's because the sponsorship evaporated. Is Tribal even still open?

[slh]

The stick of the week is now sponsored by The Ashley Inn. The winner against Hamburg was Allen Brooks. The winner against McGehee was Shed Austin.