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Post by Eddie Goodson on Sept 2, 2007 8:18:29 GMT -6
I'm going to look into this when I get a chance. I guess that nobody has anything to say about the game itself?  Sums it up for me. |
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Post by Mr. C on Sept 2, 2007 10:34:47 GMT -6
I wasn't able to make it out there unfortunately, so I wouldn't have much to talk about other than what I heard. How was our away crowd?
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 2, 2007 11:21:27 GMT -6
Not as good as usual for a Magnolia game. Not sure why. |
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 2, 2007 11:32:54 GMT -6
You know, people keep trying to compare this team to the 2003 team but that's really just wishful thinking. I've thought all along the way that this team is much closer to being like the 2001 team, only with a little more talent and experience.
In 2001 the Eagles were coming off of a 2-8 season in which they had used a one-back offense before the tent collapsed and everything went to heck. The 2000 season had been a really awful year; a year in which they lost to North Pulaski at home on senior night. That should speak volumes.
Ingram switched back to the Wing T in 2001 and utilized Bruce Richmond as well as a number of other backs. It was the sophomore season for Ray Charles Tucker and the junior season for James Hayes.
That year the Eagles should have beaten Magnolia. Cramps weren't much of an issue, but penalties were. They had two different TDs called back on penalties as I recall. Ended up losing by about six points.
They split games through much of the season, getting better and better, but losing a critical one at Helena on the final drive. That proved to be the difference maker.
They finished 6-4 but did not make the playoffs. Had the best record of any team that failed to make the postseason.
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Post by estbh on Sept 2, 2007 16:24:55 GMT -6
well, i dont live there anymore but Im still an avid Eagle supporter. When I saw the score, I figured it had to have been a great game and I'm sorry it wasn't the Eagles that won
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Post by ctownvillian on Sept 4, 2007 20:35:04 GMT -6
people keep trying to compare this team to the 2003 team . ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? I am telling you this that 2003 team should have won state hands down. They had everything size, speed, and TONS of talent. To bad that we where so one dimensional. |
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 5, 2007 1:21:34 GMT -6
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? I am telling you this that 2003 team should have won state hands down. They had everything size, speed, and TONS of talent. To bad that we where so one dimensional. This team's got way more talent than that team, but that team was coming off of back-to-back winning seasons while this one is coming off of 1-9. It makes a difference. Coach Ingram is the one who draws that comparison the most. I still think that this team has way more parallels with the one from two years before that. |
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Post by ctownvillian on Sept 5, 2007 21:05:39 GMT -6
i mean the line heath is a start. I mean the smallest one out there may have been 250.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 5, 2007 21:28:11 GMT -6
i mean the line heath is a start. I mean the smallest one out there may have been 250. Yeah, but size alone doesn't equate with talent. That line had one D-I prospect on there and that was Grant Jackson. This one has one D-I prospect and that's Rusty Gulledge. This line is nearly as big as that one but is more athletic. Now this team isn't as talented as the 2002 team...although it's not too far off. |
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Post by Eddie Goodson on Sept 5, 2007 21:35:21 GMT -6
If athletes were all that is needed to win championships, the 2002 team would have been the undefeated state champs that year. We lived the reality of the truth though.
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Post by eaglesvoice on Sept 6, 2007 3:25:18 GMT -6
we lived the reality of the truth??? oooohhh grasshopper, you go too deep,,,the c-town villian lose his way trying to follow you!
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Post by jwh on Sept 6, 2007 6:41:37 GMT -6
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Post by Eddie Goodson on Sept 6, 2007 7:12:03 GMT -6
we lived the reality of the truth??? oooohhh grasshopper, you go too deep,,,the c-town villian lose his way trying to follow you! Sorry, forgot my audience. That sentence translated means "We know that ain't how it is." |
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Post by ctownvillian on Sept 6, 2007 18:06:16 GMT -6
okay but how many of them went to D-2 though i mean Brandon Kidd, Trevino Scott, john grannon, Cedric carter,Dwight bridges, Cedric Collins and James hays. i mean thats just a few seniors i am probley forgetting a few. I still say if we could have beaten Stuttgart in that overtime game we would have enough momentum to take us all the way to the rock.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 6, 2007 20:35:32 GMT -6
okay but how many of them went to D-2 though i mean Brandon Kidd, Trevino Scott, john grannon, Cedric carter,Dwight bridges, Cedric Collins and James hays. i mean thats just a few seniors i am probley forgetting a few. I still say if we could have beaten Stuttgart in that overtime game we would have enough momentum to take us all the way to the rock. You're talking about the 2002 team here, but you said the 2003 team before. The 2002 team was the most talented to come through Crossett at least since Johnson's best teams in the early '80s, if not ever. Of course if you have to look at where they ended up finally... •Kidd signed with U of A but never played a down of football anywhere •Scott had three decent seasons at Arkansas Tech •Grannon didn't sign with anybody •Carter signed with Arkansas Tech but never suited up •Bridges didn't sign with anybody •Collins didn't sign with anybody •Hayes signed with UAM but never made it to campus Grant Jackson (still playing at OBU) and Ray Charles Tucker (somebody told me that he's at UAPB now) also were starters. Ridiculous amount of talent on that squad. Went 7-4. |
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Post by Eddie Goodson on Sept 6, 2007 20:42:16 GMT -6
Those late 70's teams were more talented. They were as talented as Springdale '05 in '78. I'm not stretching it. There weren't as many D1 signees then as Springdale because they weren't as publicized. The '02 team was more talented than the '85 team IMO. The '85 team was a better team though. The problem was that the '02 team was too busy fighting over who was going to get the ball to be a team.
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Post by ctownvillian on Sept 6, 2007 20:45:17 GMT -6
yeah sorry about that. I mean it was the 2002-2003 team if i ain't mistaken. I just know that when we went into overtime in Stuttgart after being down 28 -0 at half time was a hell of a experience. I will NEVER forget that toss to ray inside the 5 and #1 came threw there and tip it.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 6, 2007 20:51:09 GMT -6
They were as talented as Springdale '05 in '78. I'm not stretching it. You'd have a really tough time making that argument to anybody outside of Ashley County. Springdale was ranked nationally and widely is considered to be the best team in the history of the state. It obliterated teams not just inside of Arkansas but outside of Arkansas. Mercy-ruled every single opponent, except West Memphis in the title game I think. I'm not saying that Crossett wasn't talented but you're making a comparison to a team that had the national Player of the Year, two other players who were offered by the best program in the nation and and least four others who were Division-I signees. If Crossett had been that good at the very least Arkansas would have offered seven or eight of its players that year. I'm not sure that seven or eight even signed with AIC schools. |
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Post by heathwaldrop on Sept 6, 2007 20:55:45 GMT -6
yeah sorry about that. I mean it was the 2002-2003 team if i ain't mistaken. I just know that when we went into overtime in Stuttgart after being down 28 -0 at half time was a hell of a experience. I will NEVER forget that toss to ray inside the 5 and #1 came threw there and tip it. Actually the toss was to Keithian Heath, who was the backup tailback, who never had played a down of high-school football before that. And the quarterback who tossed it was J.C. Ross, who was a sophomore who had been inserted into the lineup that night because the starter (Stetson Moon) was being disciplined I think. At any rate, that one play might very well have changed the entire complexion of this program for the next decade. Without that fumble (and No. 1 from Stuttgart was Seth Capps), Crossett scores a touchdown with basically no time left and wins the football game, probably doesn't lose again for the rest of the season, wins a state title and it's on then. |
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Post by ctownvillian on Sept 6, 2007 21:00:38 GMT -6
Well did i have #1 right? lol i just know that we went into the locker room , when coach walked in he say a word he opened his coke took a sip ad threw it at us, we came back out and james ran the kick off back .
Just a question but hadnt we dominated the second half on th ground??
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Sums it up for me.
