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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 13, 2006 14:31:24 GMT -6
The Crossett School Board voted last night to increase the minimum grade-point average for participation in extra-curricular activities from the Arkansas Activities Assocation mandate to 2.0--in other words, more strict.
Just wondering what everyone out there thought about this change.
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Post by emily on Jun 13, 2006 17:52:54 GMT -6
are they going to get more strict on the teachers? I know several people who graduated around the same time as me, who could not even read, but they played all of the sports.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 14, 2006 1:37:58 GMT -6
Inflation is a real concern, I think.
As it was presented in the meeting, this stricter standard was coach Ingram's idea, or at least the proposal originated with him. Some people might be surprised to learn that.
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Post by Outlaw85 on Jun 14, 2006 4:30:50 GMT -6
Inflation is a real concern, I think. As it was presented in the meeting, this stricter standard was coach Ingram's idea, or at least the proposal originated with him. Some people might be surprised to learn that. That says alot for Coach. Most would be trying to get them lowered.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 14, 2006 11:42:38 GMT -6
He received a glowing commendation from the board and the administration because of it.
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Post by jmac on Jun 15, 2006 11:41:52 GMT -6
OK. Before this upcoming year, if a student had below a 2.0, they could be recommended to go to remediation at the Tips Center and remain eligible. This option has been removed. You must have a 2.0 to participate. I'll have 5 kids who are affected by this. But, you know what? Maybe they'll wake up now and get the academic work done. This is per the Admin. building.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 15, 2006 17:45:55 GMT -6
As long as minimum standards for participation are uniform, I think it's a good idea. But I don't think that it would be fair to allow somebody to particpate in FFA or something like that, but not athletics, or vice versa.
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Post by jmac on Jun 16, 2006 7:50:24 GMT -6
I'm not sure if FFA comes under the umbrella of AAA. They may be under ADE. The groups affected would be: Athletics, Band, Choir, CheerGroups, not sure about groups like Quiz Bowl, Etc.
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Post by jmac on Jun 16, 2006 7:53:54 GMT -6
Here are groups that come under AAA.
Non-Athletic Activities All the complete information about each activity of the Arkansas Activities Association
Coaches Education Speech & Debate Interscholastic Star Arkansas Quiz Bowl Arkansas School Band and Orchestra Assn. Chess Association for Arkansas Schools Arkansas Association of Student Councils Arkansas Choral Directors Association
Not sure how cheer groups are listed, but I think they are governed by AAA.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 16, 2006 12:46:21 GMT -6
They are, but the spirit groups already have had this rule internally for quite some time, according to information that I received this week.
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Post by jmac on Jun 24, 2006 7:50:37 GMT -6
I spoke to Coach T. last Saturday. He said that the new rule would go into affect in the spring semester. This gives the kids a semester to get their act together or be put out of the different groups.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Jun 24, 2006 13:26:49 GMT -6
It would have to go into effect in spring because eligibility works a semester behind, so if it went into effect immediately that would amount to ex post facto.
I just felt like using Latin.
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Post by jmac on Jun 25, 2006 8:55:56 GMT -6
It would have to go into effect in spring because eligibility works a semester behind, so if it went into effect immediately that would amount to ex post facto. I just felt like using Latin. Subsisto ostendo vestri erudio. LOL
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Post by jmac on Jun 27, 2006 15:04:34 GMT -6
It would have to go into effect in spring because eligibility works a semester behind, so if it went into effect immediately that would amount to ex post facto. I just felt like using Latin. I'm not sure what you mean by "a semester behind". Eligibity in the Fall is based on academic performance in the Spring semester. A student could indeed be put out of groups this Fall if they did not meet the current standards. For example if a student is not passing 4 solid (classes for credit) subjects, then they are ineligible, period. I know this because I had one taken out of my group because of grades. Almost had two, but there was an error the kept one eligible, but only if they attend SIP this fall.
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Post by Bohoppa on Jun 27, 2006 18:17:17 GMT -6
It really is shocking. It would be assumed that the minimum would have already have been 2.0. Looking back at the students who were ineligible and borderline, it really was best that they were not allowed to play it is obvious they didn't have the extra time to be participating in extracurriculars. The state as a whole should have a 2.0 minimum especially with the soft grading scale.
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Post by jmac on Jun 28, 2006 9:26:06 GMT -6
It really is shocking. It would be assumed that the minimum would have already have been 2.0. Looking back at the students who were ineligible and borderline, it really was best that they were not allowed to play it is obvious they didn't have the extra time to be participating in extracurriculars. The state as a whole should have a 2.0 minimum especially with the soft grading scale. The current policy for eligibility as mandated by the Arkansas Activities Association are these: 1. Must have a 2.0 GPA 2. Must be passing a minimum of 4 courses that count as credited courses (this must be met) 3. If you do not have the 2.0 GPA but are passing 4 courses, the student can be recommended to SIP (Supplemental Instruction Program). For example, if a student has a 1.7 GPA they must raise that by a tenth of a % by the end of that semester. After the semester of SIP they must have at least a 1.8 GPA. They can continue to do this if each semester on SIP leads to a raising of the GPA. Should they not raise the GPA or not attend SIP then they are ineligible. What Crossett is doing is cutting out #3.
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Post by jmac on Jun 28, 2006 9:34:00 GMT -6
It really is shocking. It would be assumed that the minimum would have already have been 2.0. Looking back at the students who were ineligible and borderline, it really was best that they were not allowed to play it is obvious they didn't have the extra time to be participating in extracurriculars. The state as a whole should have a 2.0 minimum especially with the soft grading scale. I think the idea was/is to keep students participating. The thinking being that they are better off in an activity that keeps them busy and in school and working to raise the GPA. For some kids, it works, for others it doesn't. Usually it's the same kids every semester put on SIP.
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Post by Kim_Day on Oct 6, 2006 7:39:32 GMT -6
I believe that a lot of sports programs keep these kids on the right track in academics. If it weren't for programs like SIP, we would lose even more to kids to discipline problems and such. I know that the coaches give the teachers lots of support in the academics area. Coach Williams makes his players get their progress and report grades from the teacher to turn into him! Coach T also rides those boys about their academics and will handle behavior problems that his players are having in class.
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