Ford
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Post by Ford on Nov 2, 2006 10:34:01 GMT -6
Why are we being forced to wear “identification badges”? I have never been given a real reason. My junior year when I came to pick up my schedule I received a packet. The packet contained all sorts of vital pieces of information, such as a school calendar and the handbook. Peering into the packet I got a glimpse of what looked to be maroon string, it was the odious nametag. No one ever gave us a proper explanation as to why we were going to be wearing these dog tags. Sure, we all heard the ridiculous theories about how they were for our own protection and a means of security, but we all know that was a load of crap. A load of crap similar to the load of crap students received as to why they were wearing uniforms. I am sorry to disappoint anyone who thinks putting on a suit is suddenly going to elevate them to genius status. There is no magic suit that prevents bullying and low test scores. If there was such a thing I would have purchased it long ago.
These supposed security devices are in no way beneficiary. Crossett High School is rather small; I have gone to school with the exact same people since I enrolled into the school district. I would hope that if for some odd reason I fell down and died someone would be able to identify me. So now I am wearing this thing around my neck that says my name, has a picture of me, and states that I am indeed a student. I think all of that information was pretty obvious. Oh, yes I forgot, I also have a barcode and a number. I am not an object for sale in the supermarket.
So my original rhetorical question was what did they think the nametags were going to accomplish? If a homicidal maniac came into the school and decided to fire at random the nametag would not save me. Contrary to popular belief, the nametag is not a shield. The whole situation would occur far to quickly for anyone to check and see if the lunatic was wearing a tag, and if he was I highly doubt it would identify him as homicidal maniac. The nametags just amount to something else the school district wasted money on. Teachers say they can easily identify students who belong at the school from those who do not. Guess what, I have three of these bad boys and all of my friends have at least more than one. Theoretically we could distribute the little things to people who do not attend school, these people would then able to walk around as if they did belong here. No one would bother to question their presence because they are wearing the proper attire around their necks, so they truly must attend CHS.
No, the identification badges serve no purpose. The people who introduced them to the school wanted to feel a sense of power; they are on a power trip. Now that uniforms are no more they slowly feel as if they are losing control and in order to win what they see as a power struggle they are enforcing the nametag policy like never before. Yesterday it was announced that anyone caught without a nametag would be given Saturday school on the first offense and suspension the second time. This is completely ridiculous. What is next for the students of Crossett High School? On a positive note, they have not yet implanted chips into our hands.
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 2, 2006 11:34:50 GMT -6
Is this what you came to my room for?  You were concentrating so much, I thought you must have a paper due! OK....without me expressing my opinion here, you know how I feel about them. Don't forget, they do use them for lunch. |
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 2, 2006 11:38:55 GMT -6
BTW, I understand why you hate them, but I'd say that 75% of jobs out there wear some type of identification badge. Might as well get use to it!
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Post by bazeballmom3 on Nov 2, 2006 13:19:26 GMT -6
I agree with joy07 there is no reason we need nametags, my child wears his inside of his shirt so what's the use, just something else for parents and students to keep up with. It is ridiculous to give a child saturday school over something that means nothing. and if they use these for lunch room purposes my child doesn't eat in there so what's the use??
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Post by old lion on Nov 2, 2006 13:59:49 GMT -6
Looks to me that some teachers may have too much free time at school if they are allowed to talk on these forums during class times unless that have that much free time.
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Post by Outlaw85 on Nov 2, 2006 14:39:40 GMT -6
Get used to the name tags. They wll be with you from now on. Even though you don't have to wear them you must have student ID on you at all times in college. Even in the paper mill we ID cards that we used to enter the facility.
You say Crossett High is small . That is true but the Amish school that was struck with tragegy was merely a small building. Society ,today, dictates the need for identification at schools. Even though we are in a small town, it's not 20 ,30 years a go. Times have changed. Violence in our schools and workplace has forced us to use such bageds to protect children and employees. Sad but true.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Nov 2, 2006 17:20:52 GMT -6
The problem that I've always had with them is how they are utilized. I do believe than an ID card is a good idea, but for Heaven's sake, USE them in such a way that they serve some practical purpose.
Hanging them around the neck...what's the point of that? We've heard school officials go on and on about how supposedly "sloppy" students dress at school (as if that matters), but then the school goes and hangs this ridiculous thing around their necks. Trust me, in case you haven't seen them for yourself...there is NOTHING more sloppy-looking than those danged ID tags' hanging around their necks. Again it sounds as if this is something that just SEEMED like a good idea, but had little logic behind it. If somebody isn't wearing one, is that person shot on site? No? If it's really meant to be a safety measure, I don't know how else it would help. If a guy showed up at Norman with a gun bent on killing students (such as at the little Amish school), and he wasn't wearing a name badge, nobody even would notice until he got to the door of a classroom and started opening fire.
My opinion, this was the secondary administration's answer to uniforms. No uniforms for secondary-school students, but doggone it we've got to do SOMETHING.
Utilize it properly and it's not a bad idea. My understanding is that CHS had ID cards long before the decision was made to force students to hang them around their necks. I had an ID card through four years of college. What I've said since this first was put out there was that if they're really interested in increasing security, get the cards into their pockets and make some changes. Electro-magnetic Z doors would be a great idea. We had them in college in every building on campus. The cards already are being used for lunch. Make students present them at football games and basketball games for student discounts. Make them present them at all events that are designed to be only for students.
Something else that is noteworthy to me is that everyone talks about safety and security and how these measures supposedly do so much, but if you look at the majority of school violence incidents, they are instigated by STUDENTS, not people from outside of the school. Columbine, for instance, still would have happened even with uniforms and name badges.
This really is a microcosmic bubble of what we've seen in larger form across the United States since 9-11. We have to strike a balance between safety and personal civil rights.
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Post by hogdog on Nov 2, 2006 17:31:51 GMT -6
I agree with joy07 there is no reason we need nametags, my child wears his inside of his shirt so what's the use, just something else for parents and students to keep up with. It is ridiculous to give a child saturday school over something that means nothing. and if they use these for lunch room purposes my child doesn't eat in there so what's the use?? Just let them make my kid go to Sat school for not wearing one .They have kids fighting at school and don't get anything done to them . I agree that name tags do serve a purpose like for lunches and that about it |
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 2, 2006 17:44:40 GMT -6
Looks to me that some teachers may have too much free time at school if they are allowed to talk on these forums during class times unless that have that much free time. Pardon me? I go to lunch at 11:20. The time that I posted was approx. 11:38. I may do as I please on my lunch hour and conference, which immediately follows my lunch. Not that it is of your concern, but I am also a business teacher and have access to a computer at all times. I pride myself on being the best teacher I can be and many of my students and colleagues would attest to that. That was a very rude thing of you to say. You must have too much free time on your hands, if that is all you had to post about on that thread. |
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Post by hogdog on Nov 2, 2006 18:09:24 GMT -6
Calm Down teacher...............I don't think he meant that personally................Remember that everybody has their own opinions
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 2, 2006 18:59:37 GMT -6
Calm Down teacher...............I don't think he meant that personally................Remember that everybody has their own opinions It is obvious that the post was directed towards me....Considering that I am only "teacher" that had responded to that post and I will take it personally. It was a rude comment and had nothing to do with the thread. |
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Post by hogdog on Nov 2, 2006 19:40:42 GMT -6
Calm Down teacher...............I don't think he meant that personally................Remember that everybody has their own opinions It is obvious that the post was directed towards me....Considering that I am only "teacher" that had responded to that post and I will take it personally. It was a rude comment and had nothing to do with the thread. well OK then...........I f I took everything serious that was said on here I'd have severe ULCERS............so go ahead...........just giving a little advise is all |
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 2, 2006 19:53:53 GMT -6
It is obvious that the post was directed towards me....Considering that I am only "teacher" that had responded to that post and I will take it personally. It was a rude comment and had nothing to do with the thread. well OK then...........I f I took everything serious that was said on here I'd have severe ULCERS............so go ahead...........just giving a little advise is all This is the first time that I have ever "truly" gotten offended about something someone has posted....but that is the first time someone has ever been so blatantly rude to me. I love a good debate and I respect others opinions, but that was so off topic. I mean that just kind of came out of nowhere for me. Anywho, I am over it now. Your advice is appreciated....nuff' said. |
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Post by bazeballmom3 on Nov 3, 2006 8:29:16 GMT -6
yeah world war 3 would break out if they try to send my child to saturday school over a nametag.. that is ridiculous.
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Post by scottie07 on Nov 3, 2006 8:29:44 GMT -6
If you ask any student they all have to same reply....they hate the name badges. I can see the good and bad in having them, but overall it really serves no purpose. We were told we had to wear name badges because we did not want to wear uniforms, but they are now taking away the uniforms. Why not take away the name badges?
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Post by bazeballmom3 on Nov 3, 2006 8:50:52 GMT -6
well that can't be the real reason because the lids at daniels are wearing uniforms and nametags.
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Ford
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Post by Ford on Nov 3, 2006 8:52:52 GMT -6
You say Crossett High is small . That is true but the Amish school that was struck with tragegy was merely a small building. Society ,today, dictates the need for identification at schools. Even though we are in a small town, it's not 20 ,30 years a go. Times have changed. Violence in our schools and workplace has forced us to use such bageds to protect children and employees. Sad but true. I am sorry you feel that way. You can not honestly tell me that the Amish school would not have suffered such a tragedy if they were wearing nametags. I understand the times have changed, they have been changing for quite some time now. "The times they are a changin'." Wearing a identification badge around our necks is not going to save us in a time of crisis. I agree with joy07 there is no reason we need nametags, my child wears his inside of his shirt so what's the use, just something else for parents and students to keep up with. It is ridiculous to give a child saturday school over something that means nothing. and if they use these for lunch room purposes my child doesn't eat in there so what's the use?? A lot of students choose not to even eat lunch at school for fear of what might jump out and grap them. LOL. Yeah, if students are going to eat school lunch then they do use their nametags, but most of the students do not scan their card, they just tell the lady their number. My opinion, this was the secondary administration's answer to uniforms. No uniforms for secondary-school students, but doggone it we've got to do SOMETHING. Exactly! They can't just leave us alone. It's like they sat around and said, "Ummm... What can we do to make their lives more miserable". It goes back to my theory that they are mad with power. |
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Post by old lion on Nov 3, 2006 10:01:04 GMT -6
Ok, chs teacher or KD, I don't want to get personal, but the comment was directed to you. I went back & checked times on several other post just see if it was on your down time, but the post that I checked was at different times of the day and the only reason that I posted that was to a related discussion that was on here about a year or so ago that I started as a guest ( that lets you know that it was a while back) about some teachers in the Hamburg district not doing their job and was there for only a paycheck and blah, blah, blah, and a teacher from I think N. Crossett Elem. thought it was reflected to her. That ended up being a very good and lengthy discussion. Anyway my thought was not to be negative and if you took it that way, I truly apologize. I hope that you are a well respected and highly thought of teacher in the system, we definitely need them. But since the school systems everywhere seem to take so much flack I thought it would be a talked about subject again, but since you changed your name, maybe people won't get the wrong idea about how time is spent at school not knowing that you are a teacher.
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Post by jwh on Nov 3, 2006 10:23:38 GMT -6
IF EVERYONE WILL NOTICE THAT I KEEP MY COMMENTS ON HERE MAINLY TO RAZORBACKS FOOTBALL BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT REASONS AND THOSE ARE MY REASONS. MAINLY BECAUSE I AM A DIE-HARD RAZORBACKS FAN ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE. I AM NOT ORIGINALLY FROM CROSSETT BUT HAVE LIVED HERE ALMOST 8 YRS NOW AND MY FAMILY AND I ENJOY IT HERE AND CHOOSE TO CONTINUE TO RESIDE HERE BECAUSE OF THAT FACT. AFTER BEING A MEMBER OF THIS SITE FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW I REALLY ENJOY DISCUSSING THE RAZORBACKS. I ALSO HAVE COME TO REALLY ENJOY EAGLE SPORTS SINCE RETIRING FROM MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT I HAVE TIME TO ATTEND THE GAMES. I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW PASSIONATE PEOPLE ARE ABOUT THE EAGLES AND THE COMMUNITY. I WAS IN A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THIS A.M. ABOUT SOMETHING IN TOWN THAT MY FRIEND WAS COMPLAING ABOUT AND BEFORE I KNEW IT I SAID. "EVERYTHING COMES WITH POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES, BUT IT SEEMS THAT ALL PEOPLE WANT TO FOCUS ON ARE THE NEGATIVES". NOW BEFORE SOME BECOMES OFFENDED I AM NOT DIRECTING THAT TO ANY ONE THING OR ONE PERSON ON THIS SITE. I AM DIRECTING THAT TO EVERYDAY LIFE IN THE EVERYDAY WORLD. I JUST WISH PEOPLE COULD SEE THE POSITIVES IN THINGS SOMETIMES,ENJOY LIFE A LITTLE MORE AND STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME. I WOULD CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO START LOOKING FOR THE GOOD IN THINGS TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE AND PRETTY SOON IT BECOMES CONTAGIOUS. I AM NOT SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD NOT VOICE THEIR OPINIONS OR DISCUSS ISSUES THEY MAY HAVE, BUT DO IT IN A MANNER THAT ALL CAN TOLERATE. WE AS CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO TAKE SIDES IN MATTERS ALL THE TIME. WE CAN DISCUSS AND AGREE TO DISAGREE AND STILL BE NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, CO-WORKERS. IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE HAVE TO HATE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE WE DISAGREE.
NOW THAT BEING SAID!!!!
HOW BOUT THEM HOGS AND EAGLES!!!!!!!
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Post by jwh on Nov 3, 2006 10:28:16 GMT -6
AND I FORGOT TO HIT SPELL CHECK BEFORE I POSTED!!!...LOL....SO IF I MISSPELLED ANY WORDS I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD....I AM NOT KIN TO CTOWNVILLIAN...LOL....AND THAT IS A JOKE IN GOOD FUN VILLIAN   |
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You were concentrating so much, I thought you must have a paper due! OK....without me expressing my opinion here, you know how I feel about them. Don't forget, they do use them for lunch.
