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Post by sportsfan on Nov 13, 2006 23:37:08 GMT -6
Yes, name tags are stupid! If they served a purpose other than eating in the lunch room, it MIGHT be different. I'd just as soon send my money in an envelope to the school every Monday if my child ate in the lunchroom as to have to send so much at a time to load that silly card. They crack and tear up way to easily and guess what, you have to pay to get a new one! Yes, as stated earlier by someone, the students do need to learn responsibility. However, I think they have plenty of responsibilities aside from this card! Kids don't get to be kids anymore. It's sad how early they are forced to grow up. They hardly get a recess at all anymore at the elementary levels.
One of the main problems in my opinion is that we act like all the kids are just horrible. Yes, I'm sure there are some stinkers in the bunch, but there are also a lot of really good kids. It's sad that they end up in trouble over not having a card hanging from their neck. Thank goodness uniforms are going away. We have so many more important issues facing our school system than these silly name tags, whether or not a kid has on a belt or if their shirt is tucked in. I think we have a school board that is trying to focus on what our school really needs and how the teachers can best be helped in educating our kids. I think they are on the right track and hope that we can support them as they try to make Crossett School District as strong as it once was!
Guess what, we didn't have name tags when I was in school and I didn't get lost, I got to eat lunch, and nothing bad happened to me because I didn't have one! Yes, they may be required to have an ID badge at college, work, etc........... but does that mean they have to wear them as children!
Sorry if I've rambled on and on, just had to get it out!
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Post by bazeballmom3 on Nov 14, 2006 14:03:53 GMT -6
I have replace my sons card 3 times not because he lost it because it gets broken on the play ground.... He has come home with marks around his neck from kids jerking on the lanyard from behind. He isn't old to forget his car keys.. but he has forgotten alot of other stuff... You can't tell me that everyone here has not forgotten something... and we expect 9,10, 11, year olds to remember a piece of plastic...that by the way serves no purpose... I had my childs nametag in a mesh compartment in his back pack and you could see it, but that was not good enough it had to be on the lanyard around his neck... as i have said before my child does not eat in the lunchroom so why couldn't he keep it in his backpack. And the kids at daniels do not have lockers so they carry there backpacks with them everywhere...his back pack weighs 19.8lbs he weighs 79 but thats another story... Any way just let the kids put them in there backpacks or wallet or purses...
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Post by memnocktheblogger on Nov 14, 2006 15:55:23 GMT -6
Thanks Heath. Now that we know somewhat what the "proper channels" are, we could get something done besides a good debate.
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Post by emily on Nov 14, 2006 16:47:49 GMT -6
I just want to clarify something... when I was speaking of responsibility, I was referring more to the High School students. I was not referring to the younger kids. I believe that the younger kids should have the cards, (as the cards are how they are able to eat in the lunch room), but they are not the students that I were referring to in my earlier post.
As for the students that claim to be so forgetful... you are just steps away from being an adult. Part of High School is teaching you how to be a responsible adult. If you are told to do something by someone of authority, you need to do it, unless it is something that will put you or someone else in harms way. That is just a fact of life, you WILL have responsibilities, and these lessons need to be taught at this point in life, as the consequences may be much more severe than a day of Saturday school if you have to learn these lessons later in life.
Thank you Heath for telling them the proper channels to go through. I totally agree that if you want something to seriously be looked at for change, then you need to go about it in the right way.
Also.. to the person that asked about the jobs that require some for of ID tag, every job that I have had has required one. Like I said most major companies require them in some form or fashion. smaller businesses may not, but the big guys do.
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Post by Outlaw85 on Nov 14, 2006 20:07:22 GMT -6
To our friends on the school board. If we are going to keep the I.D. badges could we at least get some that were more sturdy and would last longer than a week or 2? I have 4 kids in the CSD and I think I must be paying someones salary with all the badges I have had to buy this year.
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 14, 2006 20:40:23 GMT -6
I bought one of those plastic cases for mine that has a clip that can hook on the lanyard....I have had the same one since the beginning, so it definitly helps.
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Post by memnocktheblogger on Nov 14, 2006 20:41:55 GMT -6
I just want to clarify something... when I was speaking of responsibility, I was referring more to the High School students. I was not referring to the younger kids. I believe that the younger kids should have the cards, (as the cards are how they are able to eat in the lunch room), but they are not the students that I were referring to in my earlier post. As for the students that claim to be so forgetful... you are just steps away from being an adult. Part of High School is teaching you how to be a responsible adult. If you are told to do something by someone of authority, you need to do it, unless it is something that will put you or someone else in harms way. That is just a fact of life, you WILL have responsibilities, and these lessons need to be taught at this point in life, as the consequences may be much more severe than a day of Saturday school if you have to learn these lessons later in life. Thank you Heath for telling them the proper channels to go through. I totally agree that if you want something to seriously be looked at for change, then you need to go about it in the right way. Also.. to the person that asked about the jobs that require some for of ID tag, every job that I have had has required one. Like I said most major companies require them in some form or fashion. smaller businesses may not, but the big guys do. As far as the responsibility thing goes, do you not think the teachers and staff were doing a good enough job before? Do you think the previous generations were a failure in that area? And all members of the Memnock Alliance, and all those I know of opposed to the name tag issue that are not a part of the Memnock Alliance yet, wear the name tags. We are not breaking the rules or refusing to follow them. There is a quote I once heard or read somewhere. "Rules are like walls. Sometimes they keep things or people in, but, more often, they are meant to keep things out." We feel this rule does neither. We are trying to prove a point and help out the system. We understand that there is pretty much no chance that we will be in high school when the issue is settled. Either our way or otherwise (but we believe it will be our way, eventually.) And please list all your jobs, that way it will actually meet his challenge. Or at least as many of them as you can remember. |
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Post by memnocktheblogger on Nov 14, 2006 20:43:13 GMT -6
To our friends on the school board. If we are going to keep the I.D. badges could we at least get some that were more sturdy and would last longer than a week or 2? I have 4 kids in the CSD and I think I must be paying someones salary with all the badges I have had to buy this year. This is one of the reasons I mentioned cost in my original post. |
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Post by memnocksally on Nov 14, 2006 22:45:22 GMT -6
I realize that high school is suppose to teach us to be more like adults. So do me a favor and name all the adults that do not forget something or have not since they finished high school. I bet you can't. Forgetfulness is a human trait. It does not depend on whether you are an adult, in high school, or in elementary school. People forget, some more than others. If the only purpose they serve is for lunch and possibly the library then we shouldn't wear it around our neck, and as far as I can tell we have not had any responses as far as other purposes they serve. About the whole company thing. I have older siblings, and yes they are required to wear something to identify themselves but it is not around their necks. The lanyards cause more trouble than what the card itself does. So I understand what you are saying but I do not think you understood what I was asking exactly.
Thank you Heath for telling us what the "proper channels" were. I do not think that I will be around to see the end of the nametags, however; I already stated this was not for me. I want to do this for the other kids that will have to go on to wear them and do not agree but are too scared to fight the idea. Now that we know what to do it is only a matter of time before we have met all of these ideas and are coming to talk with the board. We are very determined and I agree that we will accomplish what we are trying to do. So I hope everybody is prepared. The time is coming soon.
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Post by emily on Nov 15, 2006 10:43:05 GMT -6
If the lanyard is the problem, then explore other options such as Mrs. Day has done. Talk to the administrators at school, and ask if it is ok for you to use some other means of attaching the tag to the front of your clothing. If they are just needing to see the tags, then there are plenty of other options for attaching it to your shirt.
I have worked for Wal-Mart at both the store and the Home Office, as well as working at Pizza Hut and McDonald's. And let me tell you at Wal-Mart Home Office, even Lee Scott wears his name badge (for those who don't know Lee Scott is President and CEO of the company). There, if you don't wear your badge, you can't get into you office, and you can't clock in for work. The badge is for security purposes, as well as to insure that you get paid for the time that you work. Oh yeah, when I worked at the home office, I wore my badge on a lanyard. It was easy to remember everyday, because I would hang it on the rear-view mirror of my car when I would get off work. If you drive to school everyday, you might want to try that, it might help you to not be so forgetful.
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 15, 2006 11:51:30 GMT -6
As long as the name badge is showing on the front of the students upper body, the namebadge does not necessarily have to be on a lanyard (at CHS only). No student is going to get in trouble for not having it on a lanyard. So, the lanyard excuse is out. The plastic clips are in the jewlery section of Walmart, right in front of the cashier, for .98.
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Post by Kim_Day on Nov 15, 2006 14:54:03 GMT -6
I have to correct my previous post. A few students told me that Mr. Hancock told them it had to be around their neck, so I am going to definitly check into that. However, you can still get those plastic clips to help protect them from being broken and getting dirty.
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Post by Ford on Nov 16, 2006 16:01:41 GMT -6
No student is going to get in trouble for not having it on a lanyard. So, the lanyard excuse is out. The plastic clips are in the jewlery section of Walmart, right in front of the cashier, for .98. Well, that would be nice if our complaint was that lanyards are not fashionable, but seeing is that is not, no I will not be purchasing a plastic clip. In case anyone missed the point: The students simply do not want to display the nametags in any manner or form. Why should we have too? They would be accomplishing the exact same thing they are accomplishing now if they were tucked neatly away. |
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Post by trillian on Nov 16, 2006 19:02:33 GMT -6
This is just a test to see if I can post a reply. Yesterday, the website would not let me post a reply on this thread. Perhaps it will allow me to post my opinion now. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced due to the fact that this post is of no signifigance to anyone but me.
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Post by emily on Nov 17, 2006 8:32:39 GMT -6
No student is going to get in trouble for not having it on a lanyard. So, the lanyard excuse is out. The plastic clips are in the jewlery section of Walmart, right in front of the cashier, for .98. Well, that would be nice if our complaint was that lanyards are not fashionable, but seeing is that is not, no I will not be purchasing a plastic clip. In case anyone missed the point: The students simply do not want to display the nametags in any manner or form. Why should would have too? They would be accomplishing the exact same thing they are accomplishing now if they were tucked neatly away. Actually if you had read, someone did try to argue that the lanyard around the neck was part of the problem. Both Mrs. Day and myself were responding to that point. Thanks for trying though. |
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Post by Ford on Nov 17, 2006 8:49:39 GMT -6
Actually if you had read, someone did try to argue that the lanyard around the neck was part of the problem. Both Mrs. Day and myself were responding to that point. Thanks for trying though. Seeing that I am the one that started this thread I have read it. Most of the people that replied also thought the nametags would be best if kept in a wallet or pocket, not worn on or around the body. I know you were only trying to offer a solution, but a better solution has already been offered. |
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Post by emily on Nov 19, 2006 9:19:17 GMT -6
Putting the card in a wallet is not a better solution, if the school requires that they be visible on the person.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Nov 19, 2006 10:08:52 GMT -6
I think that the "visibility" part is the part that most people have a problem with. It's annoying, it causes problems and it doesn't seem to have a logical point behind it.
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Post by emily on Nov 21, 2006 22:34:03 GMT -6
I understand where everyone is coming from, but if the school requires that it be visible, then placing the card in a wallet is not a better solution. I simply suggested a solution to on of the listed problems. My solution can be put into effect without having to have anything changed by the school board first.
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Post by heathwaldrop on Nov 21, 2006 23:01:42 GMT -6
It didn't take an act of the board to put the nametag rule into place. I'm not really sure why, I just know that it did not.
Is this something that's in your student handbooks? I don't remember that it ever was added to the handbook. If it was then THAT would have required an act of the board.
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