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Post by poppaeagle on Feb 5, 2007 17:16:35 GMT -6
I saw this Saturday at the LTU/ U of A game.
The batter from Arkansas hit a dribbler to the pitcher....then just backed away from plate and just stood there claiming the ball bounced off the plate (therefore a foul ball). The coach from Arkansas came out saying it should have been called a foul ball.
My initial thought was.....the batter should have been running to first as fast as he could since he didn't hear "FOUL BALL". Then I got to thinking.....maybe since it was a dribbler to the pitcher for an easy out......he was coached to stand there and let the coach claim the "hit the plate...foul ball" to umpire....figuring the odds would be better in convincing the umpire of such ..than the pitcher making an errant throw. Any thoughts from a coaching standpoint?
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Post by Eddie Goodson on Feb 5, 2007 17:34:00 GMT -6
I saw this Saturday at the LTU/ U of A game. The batter from Arkansas hit a dribbler to the pitcher....then just backed away from plate and just stood there claiming the ball bounced off the plate (therefore a foul ball). The coach from Arkansas came out saying it should have been called a foul ball. My initial thought was.....the batter should have been running to first as fast as he could since he didn't hear "FOUL BALL". Then I got to thinking.....maybe since it was a dribbler to the pitcher for an easy out......he was coached to stand there and let the coach claim the "hit the plate...foul ball" to umpire....figuring the odds would be better in convincing the umpire of such ..than the pitcher making an errant throw. Any thoughts from a coaching standpoint? Actually the exact same thing happened on Friday night as well. Same result as well. I thought the ball hit the plate as well. This WAC officiating crew must have gone to the Larry Cantley Umpire Training School. ;D |
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Post by complexed on Feb 5, 2007 17:37:34 GMT -6
Entire plate is completely in fair territory! As are the FOUL LINES! Fair Ball (from your description) runner needs to RUN to 1st. Now I know a college coach knows this therefore he would only be arguing to protect his UN-knowledgeable player. Remember even if the ball 1st. landed or touched in foul territory and then rolled fair, if it was not touched while on/in/over foul territory you have a FAIR ball. Unless of course it rolls into fair territory after going past either 1st. or 3rd. base foul.
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Post by complexed on Feb 5, 2007 17:53:52 GMT -6
Hey Ed
BITE ME!
Guys that come to our clinic may not be ready for the BIGS, but they will know that the plate in in FAIR Territory!! ;D
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Post by Eddie Goodson on Feb 5, 2007 18:46:36 GMT -6
If I bit you, I'd need a tetanus shot.
I'm not sure if the complaint was that the ball hit the plate or hit his foot. It was a weird play all around. Hitting a foot would make it a foul, wouldn't it?
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Post by Outlaw85 on Feb 5, 2007 18:50:48 GMT -6
Hitting a foot would make it a foul, wouldn't it? Correct! That is a foul ball. What if hits in the batters box first? |
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Post by complexed on Feb 5, 2007 18:57:58 GMT -6
Got to touch something foreign (like a foot) grass, dirt or chalk/lime are part of the grounds or be touched by something or somebody. & No Ed I'd need the shot if U bit me!  |
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Post by bbolin4 on Feb 6, 2007 12:32:58 GMT -6
When is the next Larry(the blindman)Cantley Umpire Training School???sorry Larry I just had to do it!!!!! ;D
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Post by hogdog on Feb 6, 2007 14:11:22 GMT -6
Got to touch something foreign (like a foot) grass, dirt or chalk/lime are part of the grounds or be touched by something or somebody. & No Ed I'd need the shot if U bit me! would the tookus be foreign??...............lol |
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